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Author Topic: And so I return.
dancingpia-
nos
Newbie
Posts: 12
Post And so I return.
on: July 27, 2012, 19:23

Banned eons ago, I have finally returned to see what has become of the server since and to attempt to get unbanned.

I will, for the benefit of most, recount the tale of how I got banned.
It includes one of the only two admins I remember since leaving. One was remembered for being good, the other for being not-so-good.
This particular tale involves MrsBye. I do not know of what has become of her since, but I could maybe find out.

I can't remember too much of what happened, but the parts that I do are quite clear to me.

I can't remember why I said this in the first place, but all I remember was saying that the great admins, apart from MrsBye, were promoted for doing a good job, I believe.
When MrsBye asked me why she was not included, I jokingly insinuated that she slept her way to the position.
And I have been permenantly banned ever since.
I cannot stress my annoyance at the ban, but what was worse was the 2 weeks without any explaination or response from any member of staff. I sent a fair amount of messages directly to them, with no response until eventually I recieved one from MrsBye herself, telling me to return when I "became more mature".
Not only ironic, but hypocritical. The fact of the matter being that I was permanently banned for making a joke at an admin's expense. I did not curse, I was not serious, and there was no hesitation between the end of my sentance and the start of my ban. I was banned because I did not know what MrsBye's sense of humour was. There was no explaination, no opportunity to apologise. No justice on my part.

What makes this worse is the fact that I only remember breaking one rule before, and that was abusing the MCMMO. Even that did not earn me a permaban. I eventually returned to play the game normally, but was interrupted by MrsBye.

I have returned now to know whether MrsBye is still an admin, and to know how well she is doing.
I would also like to return to the server. I believe I have left it long enough.

I never made an abuse report against her, though I may still. It was abuse, no matter how long ago it happened.

Thank you for reading.
~ DancingPianos

EDIT: The only time I ever heard anything about my ban from staff.

https://minecrafta2z.net/forum/?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=134.0

tyrant5018-
7
Beginner
Posts: 49
Post Re: And so I return.
on: July 30, 2012, 22:58

im sorry piano but i believe the report against Mrs bye would be useless because she was offended by what you said, But my point is instead of posting about how she was wrong in this post keep in mind it was you who said what you did. it is best to take blame for all that happened, and apologize to mrsbye. I dont want to seem the bad guy to ya but it was still rude, i think if you were sincere with your apologies Joe Jay and Mrs Bye, would consider bringing you back that much quicker. Wish Ya Luck.

Tyrant- Owner of the Unknown Artist music Label.
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dancingpia-
nos
Newbie
Posts: 12
Post Re: And so I return.
on: July 31, 2012, 19:57

Did you check the link at the end of the post?
Do so, and then think about that again.

aelanna
Newbie
Posts: 3
Post Re: And so I return.
on: August 4, 2012, 22:50

Before making sexist remarks to women that are admins and can ban you, you should think. What was supposed to be funny about that, I don't know. I guess only men can appreciate that sort of humor, since it's not aimed their way.

I agree the ban shouldn't be permanent, but have you actually learned anything from it? The ban wasn't abuse, if you had said that to me on my server you'd have been banned, too.

mrsbye
Beginner
Posts: 36
Post Re: And so I return.
on: August 7, 2012, 22:31

Personally (as the party you are speaking about) I find it rude and disrespectful to insinuate that any woman has to "sleep her way to the top" what you fail to mention is when I first started the server you spent weeks pming me begging for my bra size, you my dear are a sexist pig. And in saying that if I am out of line Joe and Jay can take my staff powers away. I personally feel if you would disrespect me that way (a female in "power" on the server) you would do it to the others girls there. I dont think they need to be in an enviroment where they have to deal with someone who doesnt know anything about boundaries and how to keep them.

Yes I do think that you need to mature a bit before coming back to a2z. Sorry you feel wronged but your comment about me sleeping my way up made me feel violated. Deal with it. Its just a game!

mrsbye
Beginner
Posts: 36
Post Re: And so I return.
on: August 7, 2012, 22:35

But you know what feel free to complain about me to the admins. Quite frankly I dont give a damn if you "report" me. I stand by my decision and will defend it to the end.

dancingpia-
nos
Newbie
Posts: 12
Post Re: And so I return.
on: August 23, 2012, 02:56

So you are allowed to ban me for being disrespectful, I completely agree.
But when I apologise profusely and assure that it won't happen again, you still remain stubborn and claim that a permanent ban for disrespect is appropriate?

The fact that you call me a "sexist pig" doesn't really phase me. Quite frankly, I couldn't give a damn. However, it is not your place to say that I am not allowed on the server because of something that you have labelled me.

I wouldn't report you. I don't really care enough. You're probably a good admin, but I don't think you should let personal issues (and no matter what you say, this is a personal issue) stand in the way of your judgement on these types of matter.

Do you not think that even, what, six months is enough of a ban for one sentance of meaningless disrespect? Personally, and I can speak from experience here, having been an admin on several different servers and games, the longest ban I would dole out for disrespect is a week, yet you make it permanent because you want to assert your power on a "sexist pig"?

It's not that I feel wronged by the ban. I would completely understand if I were in your situation, however the ban length was just inappropriate in itself.

dancingpia-
nos
Newbie
Posts: 12
Post Re: And so I return.
on: August 23, 2012, 02:59

Quote from aelanna on August 4, 2012, 22:50
The ban wasn't abuse, if you had said that to me on my server you'd have been banned, too.

I'm not challenging the ban. I'm challenging the ban length, which was completely inappropriate.

Quote from mrsbye on August 7, 2012, 22:31
what you fail to mention is when I first started the server you spent weeks pming me begging for my bra size

Actually, if I remember correctly it only took me 2 days.

dancingpia-
nos
Newbie
Posts: 12
Post Re: And so I return.
on: August 23, 2012, 03:00

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mrsbye
Beginner
Posts: 36
Post Re: And so I return.
on: August 24, 2012, 17:30

See here is my problem, if you are willing to say/do this to me (a person with admin powers) you would do it to anyone. THAT is my main problem with you coming back to the server. You dont sound honestly apologetic sorry. That is how I feel and the ADMIN have agreed with me on this (I have spoken to Joecia about this) so no its not a personal issue. If they really wanted you back on the server I wouldnt even be a factor. Obviously its not just me who has a problem with you, and yeah it was actually 14 days before I told you a lie about the bra size. Deal with it.

dancingpia-
nos
Newbie
Posts: 12
Post Re: And so I return.
on: August 25, 2012, 21:41

A) I was honestly apologetic, until you decided that it didn't matter anyway, so what difference does it make now?
B) I never said the admins wanted me back, that doesn't mean that I don't deserve to be back.
C) I joked around with you. You never told me that you didn't like what I was doing before you banned me, and a permenant ban for that is not acceptable, and I could not care less whether you agree with that or not.
D) The fact that you talked to Joe about it makes little difference to the fact that this is a personal issue. You are making opinionated remarks about me and basing everything that follows on a stereotypical remark made by yourself. That makes this personal.

mrsbye
Beginner
Posts: 36
Post Re: And so I return.
on: August 26, 2012, 10:22

Honey if it were personal I would give a damn...I dont.

dancingpia-
nos
Newbie
Posts: 12
Post Re: And so I return.
on: August 29, 2012, 17:18

Then unban me.

You can't act nonchalant if you also want to keep your argument valid.

jeremiahby-
e
Newbie
Posts: 11
Post Re: And so I return.
on: August 29, 2012, 21:01

It's not really an argument, Dancing. Everyone can see that you are not really sorry for your actions, and your so called "apology" consisted of nothing more than justifications. All that is really beside the point, you were perma-banned for cause, and everyone is sick of hearing about it. So either submit a sincere apology, and promise to mend your ways (repent if you will), and hope that the admins believe you after all this, or go away and play on another server.

-jeremiahbye

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